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post Mar 5 2018, 07:21 PM
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What do you think the music will be like? I'm expecting some classic and theater/movie music like most years, but for the other music, I'm think that there will be Beatles, Elvis, and maybe Simon and Garfunkel.

I highly doubt there will be any Beatles. I can't imagine those licensing fees...

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Considering how USAD likes to recycle, that one would not be a surprise to me, at all.

Some others from the list of possibly affordable licenses...

"Telstar" ... "Doo Wah Diddy Diddy"... "Please Mr. Postman"... "Leader of the Pack"... "It's My Party"... and... "LOUIE LOUIE"!!! <-- if that is on the CD, the Varsities will NEVER stop singing it! Beware!


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post Mar 5 2018, 11:15 PM
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I agree that the Beatles would probably be too expensive. Although Yoko might give it up if Part 4 of the Music Resource is exclusively about her... and written by her.

Maybe a Beatles cover? Joe Cocker's "With a Little Help from My Friends" would be nice, plus it has a tie-in to Woodstock. Still too expensive?

They gotta have some Motown!

They should probably have one surf rock tune... maybe Jan and Dean if they can't get Beach Boys.

My jazz choice (trying to fit in with the theme) is "Original Faubus Fables" by Charles Mingus.

"Crazy" recorded by Patsy Cline, written by Willie Nelson would be a nice nod to country and Nashville.

One musical theater nod I'd like to see is "The Sweetest Sounds" from Richard Rodgers' musical "No Strings."

If they expand beyond 1969, I'd like to see something from Leonard Bernstein's "Mass" that was commissioned to open the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts in 1971. Also from Leonard Bernstein, possibly one of the Symphonic Dances from West Side Story that he completed in 1960.

Looking at Wikipedia lists of classical works and composers, I wouldn't be surprised if they picked something from Elliott Carter's String Quartet No. 2 (it won a Pulitzer, and it seems perfectly bizarre for USAD). Steve Reich's "Piano Phase" wouldn't surprise me. Other American composers that wouldn't surprise me include Samuel Barber, Milton Babbitt, Roy Harris, Vincent Persichetti, Walter Piston, or a young Philip Glass.

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post Mar 6 2018, 01:03 AM
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Will they organize the music resource by genre or by year? I'm thinking by genre, but somewhat chronologically.
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post Mar 6 2018, 01:12 AM
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What do you think the music will be like? I'm expecting some classic and theater/movie music like most years, but for the other music, I'm think that there will be Beatles, Elvis, and maybe Simon and Garfunkel.

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post Mar 6 2018, 02:44 AM
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For one of the obligatory classic pieces, I'd say Paul Mauriat - Love is Blue. Please USAD, use a song that many people are at least acquainted to for classical.
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post Mar 6 2018, 03:31 AM
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Maybe a Michel Legrand/Alan & Marilyn Bergman tune like "Windmills of Your Mind" or "What Are You Doing the Rest of Your Life?" Probably shouldn't count out Henry Mancini for film music, either.
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post Mar 6 2018, 10:28 AM
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I'd like Joni Mitchell & Woodstock. Early Pink Floyd?

Curious what the poetry selections will be. I'm rooting for Adrienne Rich & maybe some early June Jordan/ Audre Lorde/ Amiri Baraka.
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post Mar 6 2018, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (ahundredjarsofsky @ Mar 6 2018, 04:28 AM) *
I'd like Joni Mitchell & Woodstock. Early Pink Floyd?

Curious what the poetry selections will be. I'm rooting for Adrienne Rich & maybe some early June Jordan/ Audre Lorde/ Amiri Baraka.


I'd like some Joni Mitchell, too. I couldn't find as much of her pre-1970 songs that I like as much as her songs from the 1970s. Maybe "Both Sides Now" or "Night in the City." What are other Joni tunes you would like?
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post Mar 6 2018, 05:48 PM
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Hey, there's also Vince Guaraldi! "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" would be marvelous, but so would his more well-known "Linus and Lucy".

That's right, he's the "Charlie Brown music" guy.


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post Mar 7 2018, 03:22 AM
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I'd like Joni Mitchell & Woodstock. Early Pink Floyd?

Curious what the poetry selections will be. I'm rooting for Adrienne Rich & maybe some early June Jordan/ Audre Lorde/ Amiri Baraka.


I'd like some Joni Mitchell, too. I couldn't find as much of her pre-1970 songs that I like as much as her songs from the 1970s. Maybe "Both Sides Now" or "Night in the City." What are other Joni tunes you would like?


Yeah, basically just Woodstock. I started thinking of all the mid-late 20c singers/bands I liked and realized their careers all took off/ peaked in the '70s, not '60s - Talking Heads, Annie Lennox, Leonard Cohen, Pink Floyd... tells you the decade in which my father grew up! Although I'd take early Leonard Cohen - Suzanne? Bird on the Wire?
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Now that's funny!
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post Mar 7 2018, 04:56 PM
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"Alice's Restaurant" by Arlo Guthrie because it's epic.


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post Mar 12 2018, 08:11 PM
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Music with "I wanna be your Dog!" by the Stooges ('69), "Gimme Shelter" by the Stones, and everything by the Velvet Underground will be required listening. Plus poetry by Charles Bukowski.
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post Mar 12 2018, 10:42 PM
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BTW, I finished reading Rosencranz and Guildenstern are Dead this weekend before I figure out how I want my team to start tackling it this spring. I imagine it's not exactly going to be a big hit with the students. I'm not sure how well existential tragicomedy that borders on the absurd will go over with 15-18 year-olds. I hope that's the only example of absurdist literature the students are required to read as I don't know if answering questions about whether one's actions in life are pointless will be much fun for test-takers.
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post Mar 13 2018, 03:29 AM
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BTW, I finished reading Rosencranz and Guildenstern are Dead this weekend before I figure out how I want my team to start tackling it this spring. I imagine it's not exactly going to be a big hit with the students. I'm not sure how well existential tragicomedy that borders on the absurd will go over with 15-18 year-olds. I hope that's the only example of absurdist literature the students are required to read as I don't know if answering questions about whether one's actions in life are pointless will be much fun for test-takers.


Yeah. Love it, but I read + loved Beckett and Camus at that age so I'm a sucker for existentialism/absurdism (it makes me really fun to be around).

Writing test questions will be interesting. "How does Rosencrantz respond to Guildenstern after their 20th coin flip?"
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QUOTE (ridgepoinths @ Mar 12 2018, 11:42 PM) *
BTW, I finished reading Rosencranz and Guildenstern are Dead this weekend before I figure out how I want my team to start tackling it this spring. I imagine it's not exactly going to be a big hit with the students. I'm not sure how well existential tragicomedy that borders on the absurd will go over with 15-18 year-olds. I hope that's the only example of absurdist literature the students are required to read as I don't know if answering questions about whether one's actions in life are pointless will be much fun for test-takers.


Yeah. Love it, but I read + loved Beckett and Camus at that age so I'm a sucker for existentialism/absurdism (it makes me really fun to be around).

Writing test questions will be interesting. "How does Rosencrantz respond to Guildenstern after their 20th coin flip?"

Or what coin flip number finally comes up tails? (not sure if we actually ever read the actual number, but I do recall tails finally came up at least once...)
Or which of the following characters confuses Rosencrantz with Guildenstern and calls them by their wrong names? a) Hamlet, cool.gif Ophelia, c) Claudius, d) All of the Above, e) None of the Above (just to make it a true absurdist-themed question) happy.gif
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post May 1 2018, 01:27 PM
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Outlines are up!
http://www.usad.org/Footer-Menu/Resources/...m-Outlines.aspx

Interesting note at the bottom of the music outline, answering the question that many of us had:

NOTE TO STUDENTS: If one were to create an ideal compilation of music from the 1960s, it
would surely include recordings by Bob Dylan, The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Beach Boys,
and Jimi Hendrix, among others. Unfortunately, it is exceptionally difficult and prohibitively
expensive to license the music of these iconic artists. Despite sincere and prolonged efforts,
USAD was not able to license tracks by these musicians for use on the listening CD. (In some
cases, it was feasible to license cover versions, such as the Byrds’ cover of Dylan’s “Mr.
Tambourine Man” and Otis Redding’s cover of the Rolling Stones’ “Satisfaction.”) All of these
artists made significant contributions to the music of the 1960s, and they and their works are
discussed in the text of the resource guide. We hope that students will find time to extend their
exploration of the music of the 1960s beyond the scope of the resource guide and the companion
CD by listening to original recordings by these artists, many of which are available online.
However, only excerpts from the fourteen tracks on the USAD Music CD will be included on the
listening portion of the music test
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post May 1 2018, 01:44 PM
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Ooooh I'm liking.

Bob Dylan has THREE selected works... in the Lit section? Maybe the Nobel committee was right after all. wink.gif
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So much jazz and no blues. I am very disappointed on both counts.
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post May 1 2018, 03:35 PM
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Complete opposite of you on that- Love Supreme is an amazing record, and Miles Davis is one of my favorite musicians.

SoSci seems like it will be very long. Art seems great. Lit seems to have more importance on the shorter selections than ever before, which makes sense with the length of RGD. First time I've seen SS be worth more than the novel I think.


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