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madcap
Posted on: Dec 12 2017, 03:11 AM


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QUOTE (TinDefacto @ Dec 11 2017, 06:53 PM) *
QUOTE (Stanley Tree @ Dec 11 2017, 07:16 PM) *
It was not a fun day, I will tell you that much. Telling 13 kids you're done is never easy. Especially when many of them were so close.

Definitely the hardest part about having a great team. :/ But a great team you have.

QUOTE (Stanley Tree @ Dec 11 2017, 07:16 PM) *
This may be the most info we've had for a round 1 ever. Pretty neat.

I concur! biggrin.gif


I really want to thank Sebastian for his hard work scoremongering, generating these beautiful spreadsheets, and being a key driving force behind the greater AcaDeca transparency as well as preservation of history that we have today! He does all of this on top of his day job, being the Massachusetts Academic Decathlon state director, and just being outstanding! Thank you for "the most info we've had for a round 1 ever"!
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madcap
Posted on: Dec 12 2017, 02:50 AM


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ECR event scores at CDO

Counters only:
Art: 5420
Econ: 5360
LangLit: 5660
Math: 5371.3
Music: 5320
Science: 5300
Social Science: 5400

Top 2 in each event / "Superscored" / LAUSD Regionals Style:
LL 5700, Math 5742.7, SocSci 5420, all other events same as above.
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Posted on: Dec 11 2017, 04:09 AM


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QUOTE (TinDefacto @ Dec 10 2017, 03:07 AM) *
Also, I keep misreading this as like "Hunter Dortch, Sr." and thinking, "How do they know there's gonna be a junior?!" xD


Ahahahaha - I had the same thoughts. biggrin.gif
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Posted on: Dec 11 2017, 04:07 AM


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QUOTE (JakeLHS @ Dec 10 2017, 10:35 PM) *
QUOTE (TinDefacto @ Dec 11 2017, 04:24 AM) *
QUOTE (madcap @ Dec 10 2017, 10:14 PM) *
There probably is no significant difference between version 1 and version 2 difficulty on the Round 1 tests.

Yeah, after a more in-depth look, I'm leaning toward a similar conclusion, though I do think SS and Art were slightly harder on this version (on v2 compared to v1). Even so, that only accounts for a fairly small difference. For most intents and purposes, I'd say they're about equal.

But ECR had more than a month more time to prepare for this meet and still scored around 2000 points less. You shouldn't be surprised that some people improved, they had a lot of time to do so. We would expect nearly everyone to improve over that time frame on equal tests, when in fact their team did much worse on average. By the same reasoning, you would conclude these tests were about the same difficulty as the easy tests, since half of Lubbock's team improved in the month between tests and our score only dropped a bit over 1000 points. In fact that's an even better argument since we had a (slightly) shorter time gap and a much lower score drop between the easy tests and these than ECR had between Round 1s, but obviously, these were much harder than the easy tests and likewise than the v1 tests.


Possibly. Scores are volatile. Sometimes the hardest-working and best people on the hardest-working and best teams just decrease.
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Posted on: Dec 11 2017, 03:55 AM


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QUOTE (Scholastic Underdog @ Dec 9 2017, 07:12 PM) *
QUOTE (The Evil Dr. Calculus @ Dec 9 2017, 05:50 PM) *
Ten Event Scores:
52,667.0 El Camino Real
47,860.1 Highland Park
43,659.4 Canyon del Oro
43,292.9 Rockwall High School

High Score: Piper Gray, CDO, 9,515,4 ten event, 6,742.9 objective.

Highest score on ECR was a varsity, but they had 3 kids within 20 points of each other, all over 9k.

What the heck, Piper? What a freaking beast!


First non-California Decathlete over 9,500! Congratulations! smile.gif I hope you are very proud!
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Posted on: Dec 11 2017, 02:14 AM


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There probably is no significant difference between version 1 and version 2 difficulty on the Round 1 tests.

* 5 of 9 ECR Decathletes actually increased from version 1 to version 2 despite the team score going down.

* 6 of 9 ECR Decathletes remained within 250 points of their version 1 score, and a 7th was only an outlier because this individual increased 354.1 points from version 1 to version 2.

(The individual scores are now in the endnotes on Round 1/2018 on ADSIC.)

I have medium confidence that test difficulty is similar between Round 1 version 1 and version 2, based on these individual scores, ECR score trends throughout each of the past 11 years, and relative score trends between states (coinciding at Nationals) throughout each of the past 33 years. Data from more than nine individuals (an extremely small sample size, regardless of how good a given program is) would increase my confidence level.
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Posted on: Dec 11 2017, 01:45 AM


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QUOTE (Stanley Tree @ Dec 10 2017, 04:39 PM) *
I think we could add a footnote about v.2 to a reference from v.1. Like have the asterisk thingy, and have the asterisk explain their score. You cannot understand the difference between v1 and v2 and who had it and who didn't anyways, so it doesn't really matter. Those who care to know the different will understand.


I vote for this! It is much cleaner! biggrin.gif I went ahead and put it on ADSIC, keeping ECR on version 1 for consistency with past years' results and other California teams, and adding an endnote with their version 2 scores (team and individual) from the CDO scrimmage. https://acadecscores.gilslotd.com/wiki/Round_1/2018

But please feel free to disagree with me or edit ADSIC yourself! Really, you can! smile.gif See how Jimmy Wales, the founder of Wikipedia, encourages anybody to edit his user page: "After all, that's what Wikipedia is all about!" -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimbo_Wales
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Posted on: Dec 10 2017, 08:42 PM


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QUOTE (JakeLHS @ Dec 10 2017, 03:10 PM) *
I'd put both ECR v1 qnd ECR v2 on the wiki so they can be compared both to Cali and Texas schools, which would also make it possible to compare other California shhools to Texas schools and vice versa. Is there any reason not to do that?


I hadn't thought about that. So Round 1/2018 would look like this?

Place School State Score
1 El Camino Real Charter High School California 39,400.0[1]
- El Camino Real Charter High School California 37,642.7[2]
2 Dulles High School Texas 35,662.9
3 South Pasadena High School California 34,980
4 Granada Hills Charter High School California 34,371.5
5 Mark Keppel High School California 34,060.1

(with endnotes 1 and 2 explaining it)

And I guess we would have to do the same for all of the ECR individual scores, meaning you would have two instances each of "ECR H1" / "ECR H2" / etc. cluttering up the individual section, some of whom scored higher on v2, and some of whom scored higher on v1.

We have had people warn us that we need to think about making ADSIC readable, accessible information for parents, supporters, the media, etc. versus turning it into an esoteric "Math Playhouse for the AcaDeca Community" / scoremongers / the select few. At the same time, we want to represent them fairly and this may be the best way to do it.

I would like to hear more thoughts from others if y'all have any opinion.
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madcap
Posted on: Dec 10 2017, 06:16 PM


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QUOTE (JakeLHS @ Dec 10 2017, 12:53 PM) *
Also, which ECR results are going on ADSIC: v1 or v2?


I don't know. What do you think we should do? It's a website run by volunteers like you (yaaay PBS! biggrin.gif).

Some might say that we need test dates and version numbers on the wiki. Some might say that would be really messy with too much information, and that we don't have enough volunteers to keep it updated and consistent, and that we seldom know which version somebody used.

Some might say that it's more fair to show the v1 scores for all of the California teams and the v2 scores for all of the Texas teams, and that it would be unfair to show ECR's v2 scores while showing v1 scores for the rest of the California. Some might say that we should just show the most recent scores whenever we can.
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Posted on: Dec 9 2017, 07:32 PM


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QUOTE (madcap @ Dec 9 2017, 02:27 PM) *
QUOTE (The Evil Dr. Calculus @ Dec 9 2017, 02:22 PM) *
CDO scores in a couple of hours. smile.gif



Ahh! Such suspense! bananalama.gif


I can't wait to see what ECR gets in 10 events. 53,000, anyone?
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madcap
Posted on: Dec 9 2017, 07:27 PM


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QUOTE (The Evil Dr. Calculus @ Dec 9 2017, 02:22 PM) *
CDO scores in a couple of hours. smile.gif



Ahh! Such suspense! bananalama.gif
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madcap
Posted on: Dec 7 2017, 05:59 PM


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QUOTE (TinDefacto @ Dec 6 2017, 06:36 PM) *
QUOTE (ridgepoinths @ Dec 6 2017, 06:11 PM) *
I always thought it would be interesting if a school gets bumped up to 6A or bumped down to 5A based on that .5 student count. Those half-students can be a bear to coach - they never give 100% rolleyes.gif

Posts like this make me really, really wish we had a like button. xD


Ahahahaha! But what does the .5 mean?
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Posted on: Nov 29 2017, 04:39 AM


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QUOTE (ridgepoinths @ Nov 28 2017, 07:39 PM) *
Those Texas snapshot numbers for next year's UIL realignment have already been submitted. You can see the list of reported numbers at this page - https://www.texasfootball.com/snapshot/ We won't know until February what the new UIL cutoff number will be for deciding if a school is 6A or 5A in Texas, but some of the schools that are probably paying close attention to that cutoff number (which was 2150 two years ago) will be Highland Park (2180), Friendswood (2108 - they will almost certainly drop back down to medium for AcDec purposes), and Mansfield Summit (2182). Lebanon Trail submitted a number of 1757.


I clicked that link and got a pop-up for Texas football gifts (no surprise), and was about to close it, but then I saw the the Texas football gift includes "Dave Campbell" merchandise and I got super excited thinking it would be TinDeFacto's godfather (the top Varsity at Nationals/1990!!). Of course it's a different Dave Campbell, but I still got excited. biggrin.gif
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Posted on: Oct 27 2017, 03:19 PM


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QUOTE (fyzics @ Sep 8 2017, 01:14 PM) *
Because Bakersfield is located in Kern County (which is sitting on top of a tremendous amount of oil, just like Harris County) we have a huge connection with Houston in terms of families and friends who have lived in both places. If anyone from Texas is relocating to Bakersfield, please call me at (661)665-2800 or email me at gabriela _ scully@ kernhigh.org (no spaces) and I will do everything I can to make sure you are given the chance to compete in decathlon.

Gaby Scully
Stockdale HS
Bakersfield, CA


Thank you, Gaby! People like you make Decathlon special!
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Posted on: Oct 27 2017, 03:17 PM


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QUOTE (TinDefacto @ Oct 23 2017, 10:55 PM) *
some Garza brothers (no relation of mine)


How can you be so sure?
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Posted on: Apr 22 2017, 07:41 PM


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http://usad.org/Home/2017-Preliminary-Nati...Unofficial.aspx
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Posted on: Apr 21 2017, 01:30 AM


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Individual competitors have never received Nationals overall recognition, no matter how much higher they scored than everybody else. See the top varsity last year, for example. He was an individual competitor but did not receive overall recognition.

Does anybody know whether USAD is open to changing that, even if not this year?
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Posted on: Apr 21 2017, 01:16 AM


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QUOTE (TinDefacto @ Apr 19 2017, 09:09 PM) *
It'd be cool if Jonathon Marek broke into the top three Honors like Tim You in 2015.


Marek already did this in 2016, as a junior. He was third DI honors last year. Are you thinking it will be harder to do that this year?
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Posted on: Apr 19 2017, 03:49 AM


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QUOTE (TinDefacto @ Apr 16 2017, 03:47 PM) *


Any more predictions? smile.gif
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Posted on: Apr 16 2017, 02:30 AM


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Hooray stats! "Math playhouse for the AcaDeca community!" Looking forward to your commentary! smile.gif Well put about Foster. I enjoy AD history.
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Posted on: Mar 17 2017, 03:44 AM


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Happy 10th birthday, darling ADSIC! I can't believe you're 10!
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Posted on: Mar 7 2017, 04:59 AM


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Friendly reminder: follow the Code of Honor. Please don't discuss anything beyond the difficulty of the tests in general.
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Posted on: Feb 27 2017, 03:18 AM


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QUOTE (Stanley Tree @ Feb 26 2017, 09:10 PM) *
Dulles- 49,717 (Obj- 34,428.5)

Sam Steinman-Friedman- 7,964.1 (6,017.1)
William Huynh- 8,495.5 (5,977.1)
Kaidy Li- 8,527 (5,865.7)

Jared Roth- 7,951.9 (6,368.6)
Ethan Tu- 8,392 (6,111.4)
Madison Gabino- 8,578.9 (5,968.6)

James Kesler- 7,378.3 (4,840)
Alex Huffman- 7,550.4 (4,717.1)
Leighton Nylander- 8,173.9 (5,788.6)

Just got home from San Antonio; we took the kids to the riverwalk to celebrate and grab a late lunch before heading back. We had great support from our parents- we had five kids' parents come as well as our principal, which was awesome to see. My parents also showed up, and told me this was better than when I won as a student, and I think I agree. It was an amazing year as a coach being able to help guide this group of kids. I think the concept of team is pretty well embodied in our scores- there is not a major spread between our kids. Last year, we had a major split between seniors and juniors; it was a coaching error that we just didn't notice as a big deal until state. It wasn't negative, they just weren't close. This year was the exact opposite- the team was incredibly close and it made us a better team. No one wanted to let anyone else down. At state, I had to do no coaching- the kids knew what they wanted to do, and were asleep before I needed to tell them, awake before I needed to wake them, and studying every second they could without me telling them to. Their single-minded drive to win was motivating to me as a coach. This has been the most rewarding year of my ten years of decathlon because these kids are incredible.

We were able to overcome some real tough hits that would have wrecked us if we didn't have that depth. One essay under 300, and another completed no scored because he wrote on sosci when he clicked science; these things would have stressed us out completely, and it was a major bummer as that cost them individually, but as a team we knew we would be fine. We took major deficiencies we had early on- SoSci, Art, Music- and either smoothed them over or turned them into strengths. We took some losses in other areas (Math, Sci) but they were more than overcome by the improvements we made in our weak spots.


There's a lot of people I want to talk about here that have either helped our team get to this point or are great people who I've met along the way or deserve more praise than they've gotten. I've started to learn that the way I used to post on here- brash, prediction-heavy, little regard for "feelings"- is no longer the responsible thing to do and honestly hasn't been since I've started coaching. So, instead of going on paragraph-long expansions of thoughts, I just want to thank a whole lot of people (which will of course be longer than I'd like). The Brunsells at Taylor for showing us what a team as a family looks like, for pushing us every step of the way, and for being incredible people. Coach Simons at Friendswood for letting us know it ain't ever over (and never count out Friendswood). Higginbotham at Dobie for being one hell of a coach who deserves all the praise he should get. Jackson and Thompson at Nimitz for being such supporters of what I had been talking about doing for years. Rick and Duff for being pretty awesome at running meets and being so open to communication. Almost lastly, my old coaches at Pearland for giving me the path my life is on- Layne for bringing me in and making us a team, Crossno for his advice and his ability to keep us ordered and focus, and Cogswell for bringing a personality that made it easier to work as hard as we did.

Lastly, our other half, Kelsey Halfen. She does everything I can't and does it incredibly. We don't do anything without her.

Lastly lastly, the kids. I'm so proud of them. I asked them to do the insane, and they believed in it. But more importantly, they believed in themselves. I got into coaching to give students the feeling I had when I won. I didn't realize what the kids would give me.

Congrats Highland Park. See you next year smile.gif


Beautiful post. Others may already know, but this is actually a team of six scholastics and three varsities. Has anybody else ever even heard of that existing before? I'm genuinely curious.
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Posted on: Feb 27 2017, 12:24 AM


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QUOTE (ridgepoint_acdec @ Feb 26 2017, 07:22 PM) *
QUOTE (madcap @ Feb 27 2017, 01:04 AM) *
Well done, Highland Park, Dulles, and Taylor! What a season! Go Texas!

https://acadecscores.gilslotd.com/wiki/State/Texas/2017


I was writing down the names of the winners (or some) in the all-around. We're supposed to get the official results sent via email tonight, but I don't think they've been sent out yet. But if anyone wants to know the top five all-around I feel comfortable sending it to them since it was announced publicly (with winning scores for the gold medalists). There were also 1000's in interviews (all three levels), Math (honors), Econ (again at honors), Lit (probably two, maybe all three levels, I forget which), and Art (just one at scholastic). That's all from the large school meet.


Thanks for writing that down! Would love to know! Post them here, PM me, or edit the page, whichever you prefer.
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Posted on: Feb 27 2017, 12:04 AM


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Well done, Highland Park, Dulles, and Taylor! What a season! Go Texas!

https://acadecscores.gilslotd.com/wiki/State/Texas/2017
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