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DemiDec Talk _ Academic Decathlon _ 2018-19 Topic + Guides Discussion

Posted by: ridgepoinths Feb 26 2018, 11:25 AM

Does anyone know if USAD is planning on releasing its early information on the 2018-19 topic this Thursday, March 1, as they've done in other recent years? Usually they will have a notice on their web site stating that the topic theme and perhaps the book title will be released on a specific date, which again I know has been March 1 at least the last two years, but I don't see anything about that date on the site this year. Has anyone heard if March 1 is still the date this year? Thanks.

Posted by: The Evil Dr. Calculus Feb 26 2018, 01:16 PM

I've been told numerous times that they always release the preliminary information on March 1. I don't know why this year would be any different. I guess that we'll know for sure on Thursday! smile.gif

Posted by: Dave C Feb 26 2018, 07:26 PM

QUOTE (The Evil Dr. Calculus @ Feb 26 2018, 07:16 AM) *
I've been told numerous times that they always release the preliminary information on March 1. I don't know why this year would be any different. I guess that we'll know for sure on Thursday! smile.gif

They posted on Facebook that it will be posted there at 9 AM central time on Thursday.
https://www.facebook.com/officialacademicdecathlon/posts/1318436848256994

My stupid prediction: the history of the 20th century as told by Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire."

Posted by: LAB Feb 26 2018, 07:44 PM

Waiting for the topic to be released is literally more stressful than waiting for subjective scores.


Posted by: ridgepoinths Feb 26 2018, 07:59 PM

Thanks for letting me know about the Facebook post. I had missed that earlier. I guess we can add our predictions to this thread. I'm hoping for one of the following:

The Sixties (my top wish list choice)
The Cold War (I'd be fine with that topic)
The Vietnam War (I'd rather have the Cold War, but it would be fine by itself) or
The Harlem Renaissance

I don't want a geographic location and am hoping it's not anything 200 years-or-older to keep the music, literature, art and economics a little more modern.

Posted by: melanie98 Feb 26 2018, 09:11 PM

QUOTE (ridgepoinths @ Feb 26 2018, 01:59 PM) *
Thanks for letting me know about the Facebook post. I had missed that earlier. I guess we can add our predictions to this thread. I'm hoping for one of the following:

The Sixties (my top wish list choice)
The Cold War (I'd be fine with that topic)
The Vietnam War (I'd rather have the Cold War, but it would be fine by itself) or
The Harlem Renaissance

I don't want a geographic location and am hoping it's not anything 200 years-or-older to keep the music, literature, art and economics a little more modern.


Any of those would be great. I like Sixties and Harlem Renaissance the best but would take the others too. Good predictions.

Posted by: Dave C Feb 26 2018, 10:44 PM

QUOTE (ridgepoinths @ Feb 26 2018, 01:59 PM) *
The Sixties (my top wish list choice)
The Cold War (I'd be fine with that topic)
The Vietnam War (I'd rather have the Cold War, but it would be fine by itself) or
The Harlem Renaissance

Just for the record, We Didn't Start the Fire would cover three of those things.

But I'm hoping for what I hope for every year...the middle ages.

Posted by: ridgepoinths Feb 27 2018, 12:09 AM

QUOTE (Dave C @ Feb 26 2018, 04:44 PM) *
QUOTE (ridgepoinths @ Feb 26 2018, 01:59 PM) *
The Sixties (my top wish list choice)
The Cold War (I'd be fine with that topic)
The Vietnam War (I'd rather have the Cold War, but it would be fine by itself) or
The Harlem Renaissance

Just for the record, We Didn't Start the Fire would cover three of those things.

But I'm hoping for what I hope for every year...the middle ages.


Well if you want We Didn't Start the Fire, you can always consider coaching a World Scholar's Cup team this year - that's one of the 25-or-so songs they need to study! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Stanley Tree Feb 27 2018, 01:28 AM

They could even go to the Tang and Song era of China- the golden age of art and poetry and an economic boom. Maybe Vikings or Crusades or Rise of Islam, Native American societies of North America, Protestant Reformation, Mesopotamia or Persian Empires, Egypt, Colonial America, South Africa, Southeast Asia...

Posted by: Distracted Varsity Feb 27 2018, 02:53 AM

"South Africa"

plus the 2019-2020 topic of Cape Town cool.gif

Would be an interesting theme, though.

Posted by: ahundredjarsofsky Feb 27 2018, 03:51 AM

QUOTE (Stanley Tree @ Feb 27 2018, 02:28 AM) *
They could even go to the Tang and Song era of China- the golden age of art and poetry and an economic boom. Maybe Vikings or Crusades or Rise of Islam, Native American societies of North America, Protestant Reformation, Mesopotamia or Persian Empires, Egypt, Colonial America, South Africa, Southeast Asia...


Southeast Asia would be interesting but I'd probably spend half the social science resource pointing out historical inaccuracies. ("No, Singapore was not founded in 1819 just because the first white man landed here in that year")


Posted by: txthomas Feb 27 2018, 02:23 PM

I have been suggesting this topic for years: The Civil Rights Movement. C'mon, USAD. Let's make it a good one next year!

My favorites: Lewis & Clark Expedition, Great Depression, Civil War, WWI, WWII, and the French Revolution

My least favorites: Africa, China, Russia, India, Latin America, and new alternatives in energy (what were they thinking that year?!)

As you can tell, I prefer significant events and not geographical locations.

Posted by: zzzptm Feb 27 2018, 11:44 PM

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Posted by: nixonotis Feb 28 2018, 04:24 PM

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Secretly hoping for this

Posted by: ridgepoinths Feb 28 2018, 09:56 PM

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DEL-A-WARE!
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So would the literature for this topic include Delaware jokes? Q- What did Delaware? A- A New Jersey (or perhaps there are other answers for that riddle as well...)

Posted by: zzzptm Mar 1 2018, 04:00 AM

QUOTE (ridgepoinths @ Feb 28 2018, 04:56 PM) *
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So would the literature for this topic include Delaware jokes? Q- What did Delaware? A- A New Jersey (or perhaps there are other answers for that riddle as well...)


Hey man, me and Nixonotis are serious about this! And I think I had the literature posted for this in my original thread on the topic, oh so many years ago... the science is Podiatry, that much I remember.

Posted by: ridgepoinths Mar 1 2018, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE (ridgepoinths @ Feb 28 2018, 04:56 PM) *
QUOTE (zzzptm @ Feb 27 2018, 05:44 PM) *
DEL-A-WARE!
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So would the literature for this topic include Delaware jokes? Q- What did Delaware? A- A New Jersey (or perhaps there are other answers for that riddle as well...)


Hey man, me and Nixonotis are serious about this! And I think I had the literature posted for this in my original thread on the topic, oh so many years ago... the science is Podiatry, that much I remember.


Well maybe if your dreams are realized and this year or a future year's topic is indeed Delaware it can boost participation in that state. Does Delaware even compete in AcDec?

Posted by: nixonotis Mar 1 2018, 03:00 PM

The U.S. Academic Decathlon® is excited to announce that the overall curricular theme
for 2018–2019 will be The 1960s: A Transformational Decade. Following is some
general information on the topics in each of the subject areas.

▪ SCIENCE: The science topic will be an introduction to laser technology and its
applications.

▪ LITERATURE: The literature curriculum will include critical reading, one long
work of literature, and selected shorter works. The long work of literature will be
the play Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead by Tom Stoppard.

▪ ART: The art curriculum will include a section on art fundamentals and will
largely focus on an introduction to the art of the 1960s.

▪ MUSIC: The music curriculum will provide an introduction to the music of the
1960s.

▪ SOCIAL SCIENCE: The social science curriculum will cover U.S. history in the
1960s.

▪ ECONOMICS: The economics curriculum will cover fundamental economic
concepts, microeconomics, and macroeconomics and will also include a thematic
section on the U.S. economy in the 1960s.

▪ MATHEMATICS: The mathematics curriculum will cover permutations and
combinations, algebra, and statistics.*

Posted by: TinDefacto Mar 1 2018, 03:05 PM

So I guess we get the Vietnam War AND the Civil Rights Movement! (Well, only partially, but still!)

Posted by: The Evil Dr. Calculus Mar 1 2018, 03:07 PM

My kids are pretty excited.

Posted by: Stanley Tree Mar 1 2018, 03:08 PM

No music fundamentals it seems.

Posted by: nixonotis Mar 1 2018, 03:09 PM

QUOTE (Stanley Tree @ Mar 1 2018, 08:08 AM) *
No music fundamentals it seems.

We'll see. That'd be kind of a bummer!

Posted by: ridgepoinths Mar 1 2018, 03:10 PM

Got my top wish choice! My returning team members are psyched too!

Posted by: Stealer of Souls Mar 1 2018, 03:35 PM

I couldn't be much happier with a theme.

Posted by: reveille93 Mar 1 2018, 03:36 PM

Mine are pretty excited as well!!

Posted by: Distracted Varsity Mar 1 2018, 03:54 PM

Great theme, wish I could compete again next year. closedeyes.gif

Posted by: SamKeal Mar 1 2018, 03:57 PM

This is also the first time since 2006 that the long work for Literature will be a play. Should be very interesting.

Posted by: LAB Mar 1 2018, 04:00 PM

Our returners and some new recruits are pretty excited.

QUOTE (Distracted Varsity @ Mar 1 2018, 09:54 AM) *
Great theme, wish I could compete again next year. closedeyes.gif


I'm kind of relieved you can't compete anymore... biggrin.gif

Posted by: zzzptm Mar 2 2018, 10:50 PM

Just remember, though... USAD can make U sad...

How could the "Music of the 60s" go horribly, horribly wrong? Consider the following playlist:

https://flashbak.com/listen-to-13-of-the-absolute-worst-songs-of-the-1960s-5495/

Some of the lowest of the low-lights...

"Paralyzed" by The Legendary Stardust Cowboy... not relevant, you say? Dude, David Bowie was his biggest fan! Also, little to no royalties required to secure rights for this bad boy, and I do mean bad.

“Umbassa and the Dragon” by The Turtles... an example of experimental music. As in John Cage experimental. Also, probably available for very little royalties.

“Surfin’ School” by King Uszniewicz & The Usniewicztones... because Surfer Music is so very 60s. Just be glad they didn't take this band's cover of "Little Dead Surfer Girl."

“The Face from Outer Space” by Jeff Barry... this from a guy that wrote some amazing stuff in his career... but this? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...

“Who Are Parents?” by The Shaggs... apparently, this band was formed long before Austin Powers was a thing. Or before harmony was a thing. I think the owners of this tune would pay USAD to include this.

Then there's... https://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/readers-poll-the-worst-songs-of-the-sixties-20111116

Tiny Tim - "Tiptoe Through the Tulips"... oh yeah, this one... And lucky you, it was in the 60s and even noticeably popular during that time period. Put it on the CD. Maybe the guy that owns the royalties won't admit to it and we can play it for free...

"I Got You Babe" - Sonny and Cher... Three chords? How about only TWO! There's a reason this song is the soundtrack to kick off a new day in hell in Ground Hog Day.

"Sugar, Sugar" - The Archies... most popular song of 1969 and will make you pray for shrapnel from an MC5 concert to put you out of your misery.

"I'm Henry the 8th I Am" - Herman's Hermits... Just remember, these guys were so huge that The Who opened up for them when they toured the USA. So here's one of their worst to remember them by.

"Yummy Yummy Yummy" - The Ohio Express... hey, we got "Sugar, Sugar" on there, so why not this one, too?

So, yeah, don't rave until you see the list of tracks on the CD...


Posted by: nixonotis Mar 2 2018, 11:14 PM

QUOTE (zzzptm @ Mar 2 2018, 03:50 PM) *
Just remember, though... USAD can make U sad...

Boo. You're not supposed to remind us about reality. We still have 2 more months of dreaming!

Posted by: Dave C Mar 2 2018, 11:27 PM

Is it a coincidence that "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern" starts with a discussion of probability regarding coin flips and the math topic is statistics? I'm betting that cross curricular connections don't happen too often between math and lit...

Posted by: Allan21996 Mar 3 2018, 12:44 AM

QUOTE (Distracted Varsity @ Mar 1 2018, 07:54 AM) *
Great theme, wish I could compete again next year. closedeyes.gif

There is no division below varsity, Hanor.

Posted by: Distracted Varsity Mar 3 2018, 04:05 AM

QUOTE (Allan21996 @ Mar 3 2018, 01:44 AM) *
QUOTE (Distracted Varsity @ Mar 1 2018, 07:54 AM) *
Great theme, wish I could compete again next year. closedeyes.gif

There is no division below varsity, Hanor.


excl.gif oof excl.gif

The only thing lower than that blow is my GPA

Posted by: Peter Cao Mar 5 2018, 05:44 AM

What do you think the music will be like? I'm expecting some classic and theater/movie music like most years, but for the other music, I'm think that there will be Beatles, Elvis, and maybe Simon and Garfunkel.

Posted by: The Evil Dr. Calculus Mar 5 2018, 12:39 PM

Buffalo Springfield.

Posted by: zzzptm Mar 5 2018, 02:08 PM

Nancy Sinatra.

Posted by: LAB Mar 5 2018, 02:26 PM

Creedence

Posted by: zzzptm Mar 5 2018, 03:18 PM

Zager & Evans

Posted by: zzzptm Mar 5 2018, 03:21 PM

QUOTE (Peter Cao @ Mar 5 2018, 12:44 AM) *
What do you think the music will be like? I'm expecting some classic and theater/movie music like most years, but for the other music, I'm think that there will be Beatles, Elvis, and maybe Simon and Garfunkel.


MacArthur Park... "Lara's Theme" from Dr. Zhivago... "Also Sprach Zarathustra" from 2001... "Goldfinger"... "Everybody's Talkin'" from Midnight Cowboy...

Posted by: TinDefacto Mar 5 2018, 04:40 PM

QUOTE (Peter Cao @ Mar 5 2018, 01:44 AM) *
What do you think the music will be like? I'm expecting some classic and theater/movie music like most years, but for the other music, I'm think that there will be Beatles, Elvis, and maybe Simon and Garfunkel.

I highly doubt there will be any Beatles. I can't imagine those licensing fees...

QUOTE (zzzptm @ Mar 5 2018, 11:21 AM) *
"Lara's Theme" from Dr. Zhivago... "

DOCTOR ZHIVAGO <33333333

Still not over the 2013 Russia curriculum. Я люблю Россию.

Posted by: zzzptm Mar 5 2018, 07:21 PM

QUOTE (TinDefacto @ Mar 5 2018, 11:40 AM) *
QUOTE (Peter Cao @ Mar 5 2018, 01:44 AM) *
What do you think the music will be like? I'm expecting some classic and theater/movie music like most years, but for the other music, I'm think that there will be Beatles, Elvis, and maybe Simon and Garfunkel.

I highly doubt there will be any Beatles. I can't imagine those licensing fees...

QUOTE (zzzptm @ Mar 5 2018, 11:21 AM) *
"Lara's Theme" from Dr. Zhivago... "

DOCTOR ZHIVAGO <33333333

Still not over the 2013 Russia curriculum. Я люблю Россию.


Considering how USAD likes to recycle, that one would not be a surprise to me, at all.

Some others from the list of possibly affordable licenses...

"Telstar" ... "Doo Wah Diddy Diddy"... "Please Mr. Postman"... "Leader of the Pack"... "It's My Party"... and... "LOUIE LOUIE"!!! <-- if that is on the CD, the Varsities will NEVER stop singing it! Beware!

Posted by: MusicMan Mar 5 2018, 11:15 PM

I agree that the Beatles would probably be too expensive. Although Yoko might give it up if Part 4 of the Music Resource is exclusively about her... and written by her.

Maybe a Beatles cover? Joe Cocker's "With a Little Help from My Friends" would be nice, plus it has a tie-in to Woodstock. Still too expensive?

They gotta have some Motown!

They should probably have one surf rock tune... maybe Jan and Dean if they can't get Beach Boys.

My jazz choice (trying to fit in with the theme) is "Original Faubus Fables" by Charles Mingus.

"Crazy" recorded by Patsy Cline, written by Willie Nelson would be a nice nod to country and Nashville.

One musical theater nod I'd like to see is "The Sweetest Sounds" from Richard Rodgers' musical "No Strings."

If they expand beyond 1969, I'd like to see something from Leonard Bernstein's "Mass" that was commissioned to open the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts in 1971. Also from Leonard Bernstein, possibly one of the Symphonic Dances from West Side Story that he completed in 1960.

Looking at Wikipedia lists of classical works and composers, I wouldn't be surprised if they picked something from Elliott Carter's String Quartet No. 2 (it won a Pulitzer, and it seems perfectly bizarre for USAD). Steve Reich's "Piano Phase" wouldn't surprise me. Other American composers that wouldn't surprise me include Samuel Barber, Milton Babbitt, Roy Harris, Vincent Persichetti, Walter Piston, or a young Philip Glass.


Posted by: Peter Cao Mar 6 2018, 01:03 AM

Will they organize the music resource by genre or by year? I'm thinking by genre, but somewhat chronologically.

Posted by: Allan21996 Mar 6 2018, 01:12 AM

QUOTE (Peter Cao @ Mar 4 2018, 09:44 PM) *
What do you think the music will be like? I'm expecting some classic and theater/movie music like most years, but for the other music, I'm think that there will be Beatles, Elvis, and maybe Simon and Garfunkel.

St. Louis Blues except in the 60s

Posted by: Peter Cao Mar 6 2018, 02:44 AM

For one of the obligatory classic pieces, I'd say Paul Mauriat - Love is Blue. Please USAD, use a song that many people are at least acquainted to for classical.

Posted by: MusicMan Mar 6 2018, 03:31 AM

Maybe a Michel Legrand/Alan & Marilyn Bergman tune like "Windmills of Your Mind" or "What Are You Doing the Rest of Your Life?" Probably shouldn't count out Henry Mancini for film music, either.

Posted by: ahundredjarsofsky Mar 6 2018, 10:28 AM

I'd like Joni Mitchell & Woodstock. Early Pink Floyd?

Curious what the poetry selections will be. I'm rooting for Adrienne Rich & maybe some early June Jordan/ Audre Lorde/ Amiri Baraka.

Posted by: MusicMan Mar 6 2018, 05:21 PM

QUOTE (ahundredjarsofsky @ Mar 6 2018, 04:28 AM) *
I'd like Joni Mitchell & Woodstock. Early Pink Floyd?

Curious what the poetry selections will be. I'm rooting for Adrienne Rich & maybe some early June Jordan/ Audre Lorde/ Amiri Baraka.


I'd like some Joni Mitchell, too. I couldn't find as much of her pre-1970 songs that I like as much as her songs from the 1970s. Maybe "Both Sides Now" or "Night in the City." What are other Joni tunes you would like?

Posted by: zzzptm Mar 6 2018, 05:48 PM

Hey, there's also Vince Guaraldi! "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" would be marvelous, but so would his more well-known "Linus and Lucy".

That's right, he's the "Charlie Brown music" guy.

Posted by: ahundredjarsofsky Mar 7 2018, 03:22 AM

QUOTE (MusicMan @ Mar 6 2018, 05:21 PM) *
QUOTE (ahundredjarsofsky @ Mar 6 2018, 04:28 AM) *
I'd like Joni Mitchell & Woodstock. Early Pink Floyd?

Curious what the poetry selections will be. I'm rooting for Adrienne Rich & maybe some early June Jordan/ Audre Lorde/ Amiri Baraka.


I'd like some Joni Mitchell, too. I couldn't find as much of her pre-1970 songs that I like as much as her songs from the 1970s. Maybe "Both Sides Now" or "Night in the City." What are other Joni tunes you would like?


Yeah, basically just Woodstock. I started thinking of all the mid-late 20c singers/bands I liked and realized their careers all took off/ peaked in the '70s, not '60s - Talking Heads, Annie Lennox, Leonard Cohen, Pink Floyd... tells you the decade in which my father grew up! Although I'd take early Leonard Cohen - Suzanne? Bird on the Wire?

Posted by: DTLA Mar 7 2018, 04:32 PM

QUOTE (Allan21996 @ Mar 5 2018, 05:12 PM) *
St. Louis Blues except in the 60s


Now that's funny!

Posted by: zzzptm Mar 7 2018, 04:56 PM

"Alice's Restaurant" by Arlo Guthrie because it's epic.

Posted by: MarkJackson Mar 12 2018, 08:11 PM

Music with "I wanna be your Dog!" by the Stooges ('69), "Gimme Shelter" by the Stones, and everything by the Velvet Underground will be required listening. Plus poetry by Charles Bukowski.

Posted by: ridgepoinths Mar 12 2018, 10:42 PM

BTW, I finished reading Rosencranz and Guildenstern are Dead this weekend before I figure out how I want my team to start tackling it this spring. I imagine it's not exactly going to be a big hit with the students. I'm not sure how well existential tragicomedy that borders on the absurd will go over with 15-18 year-olds. I hope that's the only example of absurdist literature the students are required to read as I don't know if answering questions about whether one's actions in life are pointless will be much fun for test-takers.

Posted by: ahundredjarsofsky Mar 13 2018, 03:29 AM

QUOTE (ridgepoinths @ Mar 12 2018, 11:42 PM) *
BTW, I finished reading Rosencranz and Guildenstern are Dead this weekend before I figure out how I want my team to start tackling it this spring. I imagine it's not exactly going to be a big hit with the students. I'm not sure how well existential tragicomedy that borders on the absurd will go over with 15-18 year-olds. I hope that's the only example of absurdist literature the students are required to read as I don't know if answering questions about whether one's actions in life are pointless will be much fun for test-takers.


Yeah. Love it, but I read + loved Beckett and Camus at that age so I'm a sucker for existentialism/absurdism (it makes me really fun to be around).

Writing test questions will be interesting. "How does Rosencrantz respond to Guildenstern after their 20th coin flip?"

Posted by: ridgepoinths Mar 13 2018, 01:10 PM

QUOTE (ahundredjarsofsky @ Mar 12 2018, 10:29 PM) *
QUOTE (ridgepoinths @ Mar 12 2018, 11:42 PM) *
BTW, I finished reading Rosencranz and Guildenstern are Dead this weekend before I figure out how I want my team to start tackling it this spring. I imagine it's not exactly going to be a big hit with the students. I'm not sure how well existential tragicomedy that borders on the absurd will go over with 15-18 year-olds. I hope that's the only example of absurdist literature the students are required to read as I don't know if answering questions about whether one's actions in life are pointless will be much fun for test-takers.


Yeah. Love it, but I read + loved Beckett and Camus at that age so I'm a sucker for existentialism/absurdism (it makes me really fun to be around).

Writing test questions will be interesting. "How does Rosencrantz respond to Guildenstern after their 20th coin flip?"

Or what coin flip number finally comes up tails? (not sure if we actually ever read the actual number, but I do recall tails finally came up at least once...)
Or which of the following characters confuses Rosencrantz with Guildenstern and calls them by their wrong names? a) Hamlet, cool.gif Ophelia, c) Claudius, d) All of the Above, e) None of the Above (just to make it a true absurdist-themed question) happy.gif

Posted by: Dave C May 1 2018, 01:27 PM

Outlines are up!
http://www.usad.org/Footer-Menu/Resources/Student-Resources/Curriculum-Outlines.aspx

Interesting note at the bottom of the music outline, answering the question that many of us had:

NOTE TO STUDENTS: If one were to create an ideal compilation of music from the 1960s, it
would surely include recordings by Bob Dylan, The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Beach Boys,
and Jimi Hendrix, among others. Unfortunately, it is exceptionally difficult and prohibitively
expensive to license the music of these iconic artists. Despite sincere and prolonged efforts,
USAD was not able to license tracks by these musicians for use on the listening CD. (In some
cases, it was feasible to license cover versions, such as the Byrds’ cover of Dylan’s “Mr.
Tambourine Man” and Otis Redding’s cover of the Rolling Stones’ “Satisfaction.”) All of these
artists made significant contributions to the music of the 1960s, and they and their works are
discussed in the text of the resource guide. We hope that students will find time to extend their
exploration of the music of the 1960s beyond the scope of the resource guide and the companion
CD by listening to original recordings by these artists, many of which are available online.
However, only excerpts from the fourteen tracks on the USAD Music CD will be included on the
listening portion of the music test

Posted by: TinDefacto May 1 2018, 01:44 PM

Ooooh I'm liking.

Bob Dylan has THREE selected works... in the Lit section? Maybe the Nobel committee was right after all. wink.gif

Posted by: Dave C May 1 2018, 02:56 PM

So much jazz and no blues. I am very disappointed on both counts.

Posted by: StanleyTree2.0 May 1 2018, 03:35 PM

Complete opposite of you on that- Love Supreme is an amazing record, and Miles Davis is one of my favorite musicians.

SoSci seems like it will be very long. Art seems great. Lit seems to have more importance on the shorter selections than ever before, which makes sense with the length of RGD. First time I've seen SS be worth more than the novel I think.

Posted by: nixonotis May 1 2018, 04:13 PM

The funny thing about living in the 21st century is that most of the songs USAD probably tried so hard rolleyes.gif to acquire is that they are free on streaming platforms, like Spotify...

That being said, I made https://open.spotify.com/user/ajhkubl21ti92c5kb5151oenb/playlist/3zB6w75d32Hpj5QLO27iih?si=DX84xeCCR16eN0KB8Hvo9gwith (most of) the selected works! I couldn't find "REQUIEM AETERNAM," “OUT THERE” or “DIES IRAE," or at least the correct versions. I also included the whole piece for pieces that are split into movements (Coltrane & Reich).

Here's a blurb I wrote in Xathlon's Facebook Group:

QUOTE
Since the music is so accessible this year, at least in comparison to previous years, we are going to try to make some good Spotify playlists for students and coaches as part of our "Music for Decathletes" program!

Beyond just the Selected Works (the playlist I linked here), we'll be taking music from the Resource Guide--whether it was heavily covered, lightly referenced, or tangentially related to a point that was made--and construct playlists that will allow students to immerse themselves in the Transformational Decade. Of course, the Resource Guides won't be out for a bit...so here's something to get you started!


So I'll post my playlists somewhere on this forum if people would like to see them. Happy to take recommendations!

Posted by: StanleyTree2.0 May 1 2018, 06:15 PM

It definitely feels like there will be a lot of music talked about not in the selections, which will make this even tougher than normal. What are page ranges we're thinking? I think 120+ for both music and sosci, 80 or so for lit, 80-90 for science, maybe 100 for art?

Posted by: Dave C May 1 2018, 08:11 PM

QUOTE (StanleyTree2.0 @ May 1 2018, 01:15 PM) *
It definitely feels like there will be a lot of music talked about not in the selections, which will make this even tougher than normal. What are page ranges we're thinking? I think 120+ for both music and sosci, 80 or so for lit, 80-90 for science, maybe 100 for art?

I think 120 seems way too low for music. Considering that we've had 200+ for that guide before, I think it could run really long again. And I think lit will need to be longer since there are so many more works than usual...that's more authors to talk about, etc.

Posted by: Stealer of Souls May 1 2018, 10:37 PM

Thanks for Aquarius and White Rabbit, but sorry USAD...I hate you. "It's Gonna Rain" is way worse that Dripsody. It could be used for torture purposes.

Posted by: Scholastic Underdog May 1 2018, 10:42 PM

Dies Irae again? I loved that song back when we had it a few years back, but the fact that they’re repeating it is... interesting to me.

Posted by: nixonotis May 1 2018, 11:26 PM

QUOTE (Stealer of Souls @ May 1 2018, 10:37 PM) *
Thanks for Aquarius and White Rabbit, but sorry USAD...I hate you. "It's Gonna Rain" is way worse that Dripsody. It could be used for torture purposes.

I was playing the selected works for my wife and when this one came on we both bust out laughing. The nice thing about it being so painful and odd is that for Listening Selection question purposes, you probably only need to hear it once or twice to identify it...

Posted by: Dave C May 2 2018, 12:43 AM

QUOTE (Scholastic Underdog @ May 1 2018, 05:42 PM) *
Dies Irae again? I loved that song back when we had it a few years back, but the fact that they’re repeating it is... interesting to me.

If the selection I found is correct, then it's a very different track from the energy year. Same part of the mass, but a totally different mass setting.

Posted by: TinDefacto May 2 2018, 01:18 AM

QUOTE (Stealer of Souls @ May 1 2018, 06:37 PM) *
Thanks for Aquarius and White Rabbit, but sorry USAD...I hate you. "It's Gonna Rain" is way worse that Dripsody. It could be used for torture purposes.

I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree on this one. I love It's Gonna Rain and I'm so excited it's a Listening Selection.

Posted by: Peter Cao May 2 2018, 02:33 AM

QUOTE (TinDefacto @ May 2 2018, 02:18 AM) *
QUOTE (Stealer of Souls @ May 1 2018, 06:37 PM) *
Thanks for Aquarius and White Rabbit, but sorry USAD...I hate you. "It's Gonna Rain" is way worse that Dripsody. It could be used for torture purposes.

I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree on this one. I love It's Gonna Rain and I'm so excited it's a Listening Selection.


Same here, it's probably the best of the listening selections this year.

Posted by: TinDefacto May 2 2018, 02:25 PM

I mean, I don't know if I'd go that far... there's always 2013's "Ах ты степь" ("Akh ty steppe")... and Rachmaninoff's Second Piano Concerto... *stares dreamily into the distance*

Posted by: nixonotis May 2 2018, 05:15 PM

I understand the cultural significance of It's Gonna Rain...is that what you guys are talking about? From my perspective it is not pleasant to listen to. It would be awesome as a sample in another song, and I think it was clearly an excellent early example of ambient, minimalist music...it's not my favorite, though.

I'm curious--Peter and Sebastian--what makes you like the song so much, though smile.gif

Posted by: nixonotis May 2 2018, 10:14 PM

If you can't tell, I'm REALLY excited about the music this year. I made a mixtape based off of topics/artists/songs/films/etc. that I found in the Music outline...https://open.spotify.com/user/ajhkubl21ti92c5kb5151oenb/playlist/3PISUuqMmbzL5SCyCnDew9?si=eYm6RvSpRPW3wAkK4OJ9bQ--enjoy!

Posted by: TinDefacto May 3 2018, 04:16 PM

QUOTE (nixonotis @ May 2 2018, 01:15 PM) *
I understand the cultural significance of It's Gonna Rain...is that what you guys are talking about? From my perspective it is not pleasant to listen to. It would be awesome as a sample in another song, and I think it was clearly an excellent early example of ambient, minimalist music...it's not my favorite, though.

I'm curious--Peter and Sebastian--what makes you like the song so much, though smile.gif

It is partially the cultural significance -- and being someone who's super into sound experimentation and sample-based music and things of that sort, I'm a sucker for that -- but it's also just a nice listen!! I can't explain what I like specifically about it. It's just kind of soothing to listen to the sounds evolve and the two channels kind of play with each other. I can understand why someone may not like it, but I don't understand the vitriolic response it seems to be getting...

Posted by: zzzptm May 3 2018, 08:34 PM

Is this the first time that USAD has included an apology with the music outline?

Posted by: Stealer of Souls May 14 2018, 06:30 PM

I didn't know where to post this so: Apparently the schools in my area have decided to have a new competition: Hmong Academic Decathlon. Does USAD have a copyright on that term? If so they should send a cease and desist order. How rude to base the name of your new competition after one that has been established for so long. Somebody connected should reach out to USAD and check into this underhanded theft taking place in Fresno County.

Posted by: ridgepoinths May 14 2018, 10:32 PM

QUOTE (Stealer of Souls @ May 14 2018, 01:30 PM) *
I didn't know where to post this so: Apparently the schools in my area have decided to have a new competition: Hmong Academic Decathlon. Does USAD have a copyright on that term? If so they should send a cease and desist order. How rude to base the name of your new competition after one that has been established for so long. Somebody connected should reach out to USAD and check into this underhanded theft taking place in Fresno County.


Why are they calling it Hmong Academic Decathlon? That seems like such a random name. Does 'hmong' stand for something?

Posted by: TinDefacto May 15 2018, 02:12 PM

QUOTE (Stealer of Souls @ May 14 2018, 02:30 PM) *
I didn't know where to post this so: Apparently the schools in my area have decided to have a new competition: Hmong Academic Decathlon. Does USAD have a copyright on that term? If so they should send a cease and desist order. How rude to base the name of your new competition after one that has been established for so long. Somebody connected should reach out to USAD and check into this underhanded theft taking place in Fresno County.

I saw that on Twitter and was severely confused. I don't think USAD does have "Academic Decathlon" trademarked though... there's also that Catholic middle school "Academic Decathlon" in SoCal that I don't think USAD's ever done anything about. So maybe they do get to keep that name. :/ That really sucks.

That being said, the competition actually seems https://bullardcharger.com/news/2018/05/11/winners-of-the-hmong-academic-decathlon/ -- it's for students learning about the Hmong language and culture to have a competitive outlet! I just wish they had a different name...

In other news, the new Resources (supposedly) come out today! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Dave C May 15 2018, 02:37 PM

Resource guides are indeed out. The last one (music) just went live. For page counters:
SS: 94
Sci: 95
Lit: 104
Art: 105
Econ: 130
Math: 148
Music: 172

Also exciting is that they don't have any of the problems with ginormous file sizes this year. Everything is pretty reasonable. I'm glad they learned after what happened last year.

Also also exciting is that the epub versions are available now too instead of having the delay they often have. That is handy for my e-reading kids.

Posted by: TinDefacto May 15 2018, 03:09 PM

That's great to hear they've fixed the file size issues!! Wow though, I'm amazed at the shortness of Social Science... I was thinking that'd be a behemoth! (That Music though... whoa.)

Posted by: StanleyTree2.0 May 16 2018, 10:53 AM

Read through a snippet of music- they named all of John coltranes band members. Seems like music is gonna be spicy. SoSci is only 70 or so without the charts and music is 140.

Posted by: soudyacadec May 16 2018, 06:30 PM

IT'S GON RAIN IT'S GON RAIN RAIN RAIN RAIN RAIN RAIN

7 minutes, 50 seconds.

Posted by: ahundredjarsofsky May 17 2018, 02:59 PM

Soc sci is really thin. So is science; some of the images are pretty... basic MS paint like. (You'll know it when you see it.)

Posted by: StanleyTree2.0 May 17 2018, 06:14 PM

QUOTE (ahundredjarsofsky @ May 17 2018, 09:59 AM) *
Soc sci is really thin. So is science; some of the images are pretty... basic MS paint like. (You'll know it when you see it.)


Do you mean the content or the file size and images? Check the art reproductions- they look artifacted. I just read the first three paragraphs of sosci and there's already...a lot of info.

Posted by: Stealer of Souls May 17 2018, 07:30 PM

QUOTE (ridgepoinths @ May 14 2018, 03:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Stealer of Souls @ May 14 2018, 01:30 PM) *
I didn't know where to post this so: Apparently the schools in my area have decided to have a new competition: Hmong Academic Decathlon. Does USAD have a copyright on that term? If so they should send a cease and desist order. How rude to base the name of your new competition after one that has been established for so long. Somebody connected should reach out to USAD and check into this underhanded theft taking place in Fresno County.


Why are they calling it Hmong Academic Decathlon? That seems like such a random name. Does 'hmong' stand for something?



With any luck the Hmong would get a mention in the social science packet as a group of people the US recruited to help fight the communists in Vietnam, and then they were allowed to come here as refugees when we didn't get the job done.

Posted by: zzzptm May 22 2018, 12:31 PM

BRB, I need to trademark "Academic Decathlon." If not me, who? If not now, when?

Posted by: ahundredjarsofsky May 24 2018, 09:54 AM

QUOTE (StanleyTree2.0 @ May 17 2018, 06:14 PM) *
QUOTE (ahundredjarsofsky @ May 17 2018, 09:59 AM) *
Soc sci is really thin. So is science; some of the images are pretty... basic MS paint like. (You'll know it when you see it.)


Do you mean the content or the file size and images? Check the art reproductions- they look artifacted. I just read the first three paragraphs of sosci and there's already...a lot of info.



Yeah, I should correct that; thin in the sense of not seeming to be attempting analysis or critical evaluation of what is most important to cover. What I've been through feels like an info dump without narrative / selectivity - so many allusions to various topics. Maybe it'll get better past the introductory parts.

Posted by: ahundredjarsofsky May 24 2018, 09:56 AM

QUOTE (Stealer of Souls @ May 17 2018, 07:30 PM) *
With any luck the Hmong would get a mention in the social science packet as a group of people the US recruited to help fight the communists in Vietnam, and then they were allowed to come here as refugees when we didn't get the job done.


one reference!
"Although Kennedy used the C .I .A . to arm around nine thousand members of the Hmong ethnic group to fight against North Vietnamese incursions into Laos, in the end he had to secure a shaky peace in the Laotian civil war at a conference in Geneva, Switzerland, in 1962"


Posted by: Labiba Uddin May 24 2018, 05:11 PM

QUOTE (Stealer of Souls @ May 14 2018, 01:30 PM) *
I didn't know where to post this so: Apparently the schools in my area have decided to have a new competition: Hmong Academic Decathlon. Does USAD have a copyright on that term? If so they should send a cease and desist order. How rude to base the name of your new competition after one that has been established for so long. Somebody connected should reach out to USAD and check into this underhanded theft taking place in Fresno County.

http://usad.org/Curriculum/Copyright-Information.aspx

“United States Academic Decathlon®, U.S.A.D, USAD, Academic Decathlon®, U.S. Academic Decathlon®, and Super Quiz™ are trademarks of the United States Academic Decathlon® Association and may not be used in any way for commercial purposes without the express written permission of USAD. All rights reserved.”

Posted by: zzzptm May 30 2018, 12:08 PM

^ Yeah, I was disapppointed. I really wanted to own those trademarks and then launch a version of Academic Decathlon for retirement centers...

Posted by: Stealer of Souls Jun 1 2018, 04:49 PM

Thanks Demidec for giving me 2018-2019 math tests that I already paid for in 2015-2016. Seems they should write new ones since they are charging a fee for curriculum and tests for next year.

Posted by: soudyacadec Jun 1 2018, 05:01 PM

I could be wrong, but I don't think DD has too many volunteers for math writing. Or they are just recycling to save money. Who knows.

Posted by: ridgepoinths Jun 2 2018, 04:20 PM

Even though they are separate entities, keep in mind that DemiDec continues to rapidly expand the World Scholar's Cup competition and they are putting on more than 120 meets around the world this year. They have their first summer Global WSC Meet in Kuala Lumpur in less than three weeks and they may have 4000 students in close to 40 nations compete in that meet alone. Then they have the Barcelona Global Meet a month later which will top 2500 students from 50-or-so nations. I'm not sure how many of their DemiDec writers also help with WSC but some do. I should have asked Josephine who writes some of their resource guides about it - she had flown in to Houston from Idaho for the regional we hosted last month, but I didn't get a chance to ask that question.

Posted by: ahundredjarsofsky Jun 6 2018, 04:18 AM

I had all of them rewritten and audited, although some used the 2015-6 tests for reference and it's possible they look stylistically similar even if the numbers were changed. Which tests are you thinking of, specifically?

FWIW, Josephine is director of curriculum at WSC and DemiDec - she's overseeing our global round testing right now in addition to running DemiDec. I also do double duty of sorts and will be at KL globals.

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